In 1992, rapper Tupac Shakur name-dropped Donald Trump in an interview with MTV, citing the billionaire as an example of all that is wrong with American culture—representative of the paradigm of American greed. “This world is such a…‘gimme gimme gimme! Everybody back off,’” Shakur said in a recently released clip of the interview. “If you want to be successful, if you want to be like Trump, gimme gimme gimme, push push push push. Step step step, crush crush crush. That’s how it all is, and it’s like… nobody ever stops.”

Reverends Irene Monroe and Emmett G. Price III joined Margery Eagan and Jim Braude on Boston Public Radio for their weekly segment, All Revved Up.